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« on: May 21, 2006, 11:38:04 »

Does anyone have any recent information for us on the Family Centre which is due to run within the Youth centre facility?  I know building work is due to start in September.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 13:22:53 »

Apparently thanks to info from Russell Christopher Newbury is the man to speak to about this issue, so I will contact him and hopefully update you.  The YOuth Centre is the proposed site, with as I said the work commencing in September.  As I understand it there is to be a huge network of family ammenities under one roof, child care, social support for families....
My concern is the existing facilities at the Youth Centre aimed at young teens.. will they still be catered for?
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2006, 21:53:34 »

Apparently the proposed Children's Centre will indeed take over the whole of the present building of the Youth Centre. It is believed its other uses (as a community centre) may be able to continue, but not its use as a youth centre. However, at this stage there is  no clear idea what alternative provision will be made for the youth service itself, if any.
 
Other towns have some impressive youth centres - for instance,  'The Shack' at Pewsey, which includes a dance floor with bar, a snooker room and a recording studio.   Why should Westbury  be left with no youth provision simply because the government wishes to see a Children's Centre. Should that and a youth centre really be looked on as alternatives? This seems to fall into the category of "robbing Peter to pay Paul".

Thanks to Christopher Newbury for this information.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 07:59:27 »

The Youth Centre is owned by the county council, Dr Robinson is the council's Chief Executive, Mrs Bryant is the council's cabinet member in charge of the youth service and Mr Newbury is the local county councillor.

Below is a letter sent from Mr Christopher Newbury regarding the Youth Centre.  Mr Newbury is very kindly presenting me with updates detailing the progress of the developments within the Youth/Family Centre. I have his permission to post this letter.
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Dear Dr Robinson,
 
NOTICE OF MOTION
 
I wish to submit a notice of motion, to be included in the next suitable Agenda of a meeting. I leave it to officers to decide which is the correct body to take this matter to, but would you please let me know what is decided about considering it?
 
This motion follows on from a statement by Mr Whewell at a meeting this evening at the Westbury Youth and Community Centre. Mr Whewell told us that he took a decision about five weeks ago to close the building as a Youth and Community Centre and to turn it into a Children's Centre. I asked whether any county councillors had been consulted about this decision, and he told us that he had not felt it was necessary to discuss the matter with any members, including Mrs Nancy Bryant or myself as the local member, as this was a matter which fell to him under the scheme of delegation.
 
Mr Whewell also informed the meeting that the building would be closed during September of this Year and that it would be replaced on a temporary basis by a mobile classroom, which he hoped might be available during September.
 
What greatly concerns me is that I have asked Mr Whewell at least three times over the last twenty months to take no final decision about the future of the Westbury Youth and Community Centre without taking a report on the matter to members to decide, which should covering all available options. He has twice told me that this would be done.
 
My motion is therefore as follows:
 
" 1. To receive a report from officers to clarify whether the Head of the Youth Development Service has the authority to close youth centres in the county without consultation with the local member, the portfolio holder, or any other member.
 
2. To consider whether to confirm the decision to close the Westbury Youth and Community Centre, and (if confirmed) what facilities will replace it on a permanent basis.
 
3. To consider whether the protocol for consultation with local members needs to be improved."
 
Thank you for your help.
 
Christopher Newbury
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The Forum seems very quiet on this whole subject.  Do you think a Family Centre would be beneficial to our Town? Do you believe various family related services will all serve effectively under one roof? Are you unaware really of the plans, or do you disagree with them?  Should the Youth Centre be left alone to continue the work it runs now for the Youths? Or should they adapt the Centre to make room for both?  Are you concerned about us being left with a lack of facilities for the teens in our town?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2006, 17:20:24 »

Report from the Standard this week;

Westbury councillors have condemned plans to redevelop the town's youth centre. Plans were unveiled earlier this month to redevelop the Westbury Youth Development Centre building to house one of the 20 children's centres planned across the county.

While councillors threw their support behind the proposals for the new service, proposals to redevelop the site in Eden Vale Road have sparked concerns about the future of youth service provision in the town.

At Monday night's meeting of Westbury Town Council, town council representative Charlie Finbow (Con, Westbury Ham) spoke of his fears for what he branded as the "collateral damage for user groups".

He gave the example of Eden Vale Pre-school which has been operating from the building for the last 24 years and now faces an uncertain future with the new academic year looming just two months away.

Cllr Finbow said: "It is my grave concern that if the building is shut in September then the pre-school will go and it will not come back. The damage it will have will be untold."

Cllr Finbow went on to add that it was also traditional for children from the pre-school to go on to attend the infant and later junior school neighbouring the site.

A motion proposed by Cllr Finbow, Cllr Russell Hawker (Ind, Westbury Laverton) and Cllr Mike Hawkins (Con, Westbury Ham) is for a letter to be sent to Wiltshire County Council's director of children and services, highlighting a number of concerns.

These include condemning the proposed closure of Westbury Youth Development Centre from September, without any alternative building for youth services and without consultation.

Councillors also requested an explanation as to why consultation had been avoided and repeated denials made about any plans to close, or redevelop, the youth centre by senior department officers at a meeting last September held to discuss the children's centres.

At the meeting, the Laverton County Council representative, Fleur de Rhe-Philipe (Con, Westbury Laverton and Shearwater), emphasised the youth service will not be lost.

"There has never been any intention to close the youth service, just the building," she said.

She went on to add that the building would need thousands of pounds spent on it to improve the environment including a disabled lift at a cost of £40,000, for which no funds were currently available.

Miss de Rhe-Philipe also pointed out that youth service provision currently reaches 11.2 per cent of 13- to 19-year-olds, of which less than half is through that building.

She also warned councillors not to run the risk of taking any action at the expense of losing the children's centre.

Six councillors voted in favour of accepting the motion with three abstentions.

A letter will now be sent to Wiltshire County Council expressing the concerns of town councillors.

s.palmer@westnews.co.uk
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2006, 21:13:36 »

Chris Newbury will be putting forward three motions on this subject at the County Council meeting at 11.00am on 11 July.  For details, see the "meeting papers" link at http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/assemblies-and-committees-diary-and-year-book/council-meetings.htm and drill down to the 11 July meeting under the County Council heading.

On my part, this is just a "heads up" for anyone who is interested.  I'm not sufficiently motivated on this issue to work out all the politics.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2006, 09:41:24 »

Can anyone update us on this issue?  Charlie? Are you out there?? Wink
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2006, 09:43:15 »

Dont fear.....Dad is here! He said he will write something a bit later on.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2006, 15:04:04 »


Thanks Russell.

Is it likely the decision may be delayed further if the evidence/justification hasnt been supplied by next month?
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2006, 19:48:42 »

In an ideal world the whole site, including the infant school/junior school and youth centre would be redeveloped to make a primary school and children's centre (similar to The Avenue at Warminster) and a also a youth centre. I guess though this would be cost prohibitive. 

Miss de Rhe-Philipe also pointed out that youth service provision currently reaches 11.2 per cent of 13- to 19-year-olds, of which less than half is through that building.

If that's the case then instead of shutting it down find a way of trying to attract more teenagers.

It would be a shame to see the youth centre go.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2006, 08:03:05 »

Maybe now might be a good time for the Council to review its recruitment, retention and training policies.  If they are not dealt with, no amount of new building will improve the situation.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2006, 18:46:33 »

Would like to know what services specifically are to be situated in the premises of the Youth Centre??

What is the progress relating to these works?
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2006, 21:15:01 »

Does this mean the Puffins Group will still run from there?  I went there a couple of times.... cant say in public what I thought but have not been back. the support women were wonderful I must say.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2006, 11:14:56 »

It is a parental group that is run by Social Support workers within the Outh Centre, they are a lovely bunch... I went there as I am always open for room to improve my parental skills.... the people that go there tended to need significant support. Shocked
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2006, 20:11:54 »

A bunch of papers were published today about the delegated decision.

To find the papers, start from http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/assemblies-and-committees-diary-and-year-book/council-meetings.htm , then browse through:
  Meeting Papers,
  02. Cabinet(Executive)
  Delegated Decisions by Cabinet Members - 2006
  02-Education & Youth Development

I would give you the URL of the page, but it's hosted at an IP address which changes from time to time so could change at any moment.  If I were really cynical, I'd think the Council didn't want anyone to find out this information; in fact I'm realistic and think the system they use for publishing documents is just plain pants.

I couldn't be bothered to read all the papers, but the gist of the main one is (IMO) "stuff you Newbury, we're going to do what we like".
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