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Mike Hawkins
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« on: November 17, 2011, 20:49:21 »


If a law could be forced through that set limits on what the government could spend taxpayers money on, what restrictions would you like to see?
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 10:50:39 »

transparency of where every single penny has been spent first!!
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 18:44:53 »

transparency of where every single penny has been spent first!!

I agree. We only have opaque at the moment (apart from that expenditure where the blinds are drawn completely - in the interests of national security, of course)!

I would like to see:

Defence spending on defending this country, not toppling every despot our Government happens to dislike!

Foreign aid restricted to the really poor countries with few, if any natural resources, whose Governments are not corrupt and pocketing the cash for themselves.  (Our distribution list would fall considerably, if not disappear completely)!

Welfare payments to the needy, NOT the greedy or workshy!

Make prisons more basic! The prisoners have better living conditions than our elderly (and sick) living in care homes!!

No more bail-outs to the Banks. Other manufacturing industries were allowed to go to the wall - why not banks?  If we had saved a few more manufacturing companies, the country would not need to rely on the spivs in the City!

No taxation money to the EU!

MP's getting a base salary, travel expenses and normal accommodation charges as offered to other people who need to work away from home!

No more foreign trips for our MP's! Their job is to govern the UK (under the Representation of the Peoples Act)! If they need information, go online - the rest of us do!

Less money spent on advisers! The MP's told us they were competent. They say we have a competent Civil Service, so prove it!

Surely you have other areas to add?
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 20:02:43 »

Spending on roads, compared to the amount of road tax collected. Thumb up!
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 20:03:55 »

Spending on roads, compared to the amount of road tax collected. Thumb up!

 Thumb up! Thumb up! Thumb up!
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 12:10:55 »

Id like to see the abolition of all Quango's , withdrawl from the European Union on the current set up and retain the £49 million a day it currently costs to be in the this club .abolish the amount of MP's we have Ie one per county only.Introduce the right to dismiss corupt MP's . Increase the amount we spend on the defence of the Realm, and offer service men and women the right to affordable housing and for them to overide all other council bandings. Bring back national service for those 18 to 23 years old. Increase the state pension for those that have contributed through their lives to the UK. Return of all revenues from the crown estate back over to the monarch and abolish the civil list. Abolish the act that removed all heriditary peers from the uper house and restore the old lords and remove all those flunkies that have been placed in the chamberover the last 10 years, recall Baroness Kathy Ahton and make her get a proper job. And finally arrest Tony Blair and send him to trial for lying to this country and jail him. Exile that dreadful woman cherie Blair to Afganistan and let her stick up for the human rights there instead.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 20:23:00 »

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Id like to see the abolition of all Quango's
All? What ACAS, Low Pay Commission, The Charity commission, Committee for Standards in public life, the Commission for Administration (you might know this as the local government ombudsman) or The Health and Safety Exec?

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Bring back national service for those 18 to 23 years old
I'm often surprised by the number of people who advocate this despite not being subject to it themselves?  Have you served (not a dig just a question)?

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Abolish the act that removed all heriditary peers from the uper house and restore the old lords
I'm not sure I could  agree with the return to parliament based on birth, reform the upper house further yes, but not go back.

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 11:07:29 »

Yes and all of them , thet cost billions a year on European diktats, inefficency and  wasting money , some of the relevant quango's such as the charity commission could be absorbed by the home office and others to likewise government departments.
In Answer to have I ever served I was In the army cadets for over 4  years where we learnt a great deal and completed a vast amount of community work.
In answer to the Upper house In the palace of Westminster , before many peers by birth right took their roles very seriously and attended as a duty, many of the peers where experts in a vast many areas of their knowledge and as such contributed towards national life like the lower house could never do, It wasnt an Ideal set up in many peoples minds but It worked very well , and even held the stupidity of the lower house sometimes to rethink or stop certain bills for the benefit of the nation. What is the saying if it isnt broken dont fix it , well Tony Blair had to try and fix it which has resulted in a half broken upper house yet to be finished as they do not know what to do, well you dont go round dismantling things unless you can put them back together unless you have some abnormal traits.Again I agree most people do not like the thought of your place in the lords through birth , and what we have now is a chamber full of political pigmies who are only their as they have either bought their peerage or by cosying upto those in government.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 12:42:04 »

When it comes down to the House of Lords , Iam not against reform, but what would be needed Is a full thought out replacement and done In a correct way, I remember Tony Blair started with the Idea and even launched whereby members of the public could put their names forward , only for this to dissapear shortly after launching the scheme.
I would like now the House to be elected of ordinary members of the public , without political parties , and elected for for their achivements and knowledge , and for a real voice of the people for the people and with the people , without political Interference and the removal of the act which can overide the second chamber
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 14:15:28 »


I would like now the House to be elected of ordinary members of the public , without political parties , and elected for for their achivements and knowledge , and for a real voice of the people for the people and with the people , without political Interference and the removal of the act which can overide the second chamber
Talking nonsense again Badge. Next you'll want the house of lords replacing the commons.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 19:59:16 »

Badger, I think you're a bit behind with the quangos.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_191543.pdf
This link shows the outcome of a review October last year, 192 to be axed 118 merged with their parent departments the rest left as they are.

Why is it fair to impose national service on others when no one under the age of 70 has been subject to it?

Good luck trying to get an elected upper house without party politics.

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 21:27:58 »

Why Is It fair to subject those under 70 to national service ?
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There Is nothing wrong with Instilling In the younger community , that they too play apart of our national life and therefore have resonsisibilty towards our community, other wise It would equate to sod you jack Im alright mentaility, social community work has always added to the communityIn large and should be encouraged, by making those who are between certain ages take part would surely encourage a more compasionate view for many , rather than today's I do not give a stuff about anyone apart from myself, and by brining in a national service would lead to a more cohesive society.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 22:10:32 »

Sorry I'm not convinced.  The vast majority of young people do have that sense of community.  I assume that by national service you do mean military service, if so why should 99.9% suffer because of that 0.1% for whom military service probably wouldn't help anyway? (it didn't work in the 1950's) and the army don't want them anyway.

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