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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2011, 20:27:46 »

I have not been to Warminster for a while, do they have the same strangely priced parking now? have they also lost their free parking in the town? 

Yes and yes, except for Morrisons!
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« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2011, 21:08:10 »

So we arent the only ones with this strange new pricing for tickets then!

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« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2011, 21:26:38 »

I have not been to Warminster for a while, do they have the same strangely priced parking now? have they also lost their free parking in the town? 

Yes and yes, except for Morrisons!

Wiltshire Council have no authority to make supermarkets make their customers pay to park, but I did hear they will try to reduce parking spaces on future planning applications (presumably to try to force more shoppers to park in Wiltshire Council car parks)!

As an aside, does anybody know how many car parks in central Trowbridge are controlled by Wiltshire Council? I can only think of the Castle Street car park, the others I know are private (The Shires - much cheaper than Wiltshire Council car park)) or free (the multi storey by the Civic Centre). No wonder Trowbridge shops are not affected by these increases as are those in other towns.
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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2011, 22:32:15 »


Wiltshire Council have no authority to make supermarkets make their customers pay to park, but I did hear they will try to reduce parking spaces on future planning applications (presumably to try to force more shoppers to park in Wiltshire Council car parks)!


Would you prefer car parking  - and the associated charges - were controlled entirely by private companies?

In that model, no council - whether town, county, district or unitary - would have  any say over charges set to shoppers.....

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« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2011, 00:01:53 »

As an aside, does anybody know how many car parks in central Trowbridge are controlled by Wiltshire Council? I can only think of the Castle Street car park, the others I know are private (The Shires - much cheaper than Wiltshire Council car park)) or free (the multi storey by the Civic Centre). No wonder Trowbridge shops are not affected by these increases as are those in other towns.

Lovemead car park, and the small car park on the roundabout by Castle Street car park are council run.

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« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2011, 07:28:58 »

So is the multi-storey and the one in Church Street.
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« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2011, 12:04:31 »

Just come back from Trowbridge having paid 90p for an hours parking!
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« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2011, 13:46:58 »

Just be thankful you don't live in Bath, if it's a quick trip into town I park in sainsburys (1hr30) but if not, or I need to have the car near the shops, it's £3.10 up to 2 hours.... Trip to pick up my guinea pig...in and out in 5 minutes...£3.10
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« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2011, 19:03:38 »


Wiltshire Council have no authority to make supermarkets make their customers pay to park, but I did hear they will try to reduce parking spaces on future planning applications (presumably to try to force more shoppers to park in Wiltshire Council car parks)!


Would you prefer car parking  - and the associated charges - were controlled entirely by private companies?

In that model, no council - whether town, county, district or unitary - would have  any say over charges set to shoppers.....



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I would rather see no car park in private hands where charges are made as these generate only profit. However, the Shires is managed privately as are many supermarket car parks and these are cheaper if not free, albeit for a shorter period. I don't know who sets the charges - I doubt it is the company enforcing the parking!

Let's look at Trowbridge - Tesco is by far the largest car park and is free for what, 2 hours? Tesco have to maintain that car park, and enforce parking, but the vast majority are customers of Tesco so that probably generates enough shopping profit to offset the car park costs. Also, in Trowbridge the car parks owned by Wiltshire Council are the small one in Castle St/Place and one at Lovemead (hardly a town centre car park). The multi story near the Civic Hall is public but, due to a deed of covenant no charges can be made for its' use. All the other car parks are owned by the stores or the Development companies that lease out these stores. Their charges are reasonable for shoppers, i.e. for up to about 4 hours (high for all day parking).

Therefore the impact of the Wiltshire Council car park charges is not going to be so high in Trowbridge as some other Wiltshire towns. Here in Westbury we have the Morrisons car park (what 1.5 or 2 hours?) and the Co-op with no limit on time (although I am sure if this was abused changes would be made) although for many people the Co-op is too far to walk into town.  Warminster have only one private car park in the town centre, that near Iceland although I suppose Lidl and Argos, etc car parks are not too far away.

One of the things I really objected too is that people who pay to park, are being used to meet the costs of the Enforcement Officers who also enforce on street parking. To me this is wrong. If they must employ these officers, let the offenders pay. I would imagine ticketing everybody who parks on the double yellow lines outside Lloyds, for example, which is also parking in a dangerous position due to the junction would soon meet the cost of the officers. 

Reduce the cost of legal parking - Increase the penalties for illegal parking (and enforce the law)!
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« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2011, 20:53:34 »

I would imagine ticketing everybody who parks on the double yellow lines outside Lloyds, for example, which is also parking in a dangerous position due to the junction would soon meet the cost of the officers. 

That is something I would like to see enforced.. I bet they don't indicate when they pull in or move off either (another bug bear of mine) - GITS!!
I know it's only 40p, which is nothing really, but I certainly think twice about whether I NEED to stop now and I suppose it has saved me money because if I popped into the card shop then I just might pop into the bakers for a ham roll or something while passing.. not now I don't, I get my card in Asda or Tesco when I go shopping.
I have to pop to Britannia once a week so I park at my daughters, another bonus because I get to see my grandson a bit more than I would normally.. and I don't suppose the shop owners miss my few extra quid I would have spent if it weren't for the 40p charge.
Thanks Mr Council man!  Thumb up!
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« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2011, 21:50:11 »

Don't you mean thanks Mr Tory man ! they brought it in pat whilst the Independents where fighting at county all the way against it, and voted like wise .
Westbury parking came very low down in the price banding the second from the bottom band In fact so we have in theory been not hit that hard compared with other towns across Wiltshire .
I want free parking the same as everyone else , but say to people you get what you vote for ie a tory administration , westbury did however vote 2 Independents and one liberal democrat at county and all 3 of us fought tooth and nail against these charges , but where sadly beaten by the conservative majority at county hall
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« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2011, 20:07:50 »

WOW i didn`t think a large square piece of concrete to spark so much debate Cheesy
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« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2011, 20:40:53 »

In the High Street Car Park this morning, workmen were filling in two potholes!  Be prepared for a massive price hike next year to cover "maintenance" costs!!
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« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2011, 21:47:01 »


One of the things I really objected too is that people who pay to park, are being used to meet the costs of the Enforcement Officers who also enforce on street parking. To me this is wrong. If they must employ these officers, let the offenders pay. I would imagine ticketing everybody who parks on the double yellow lines outside Lloyds, for example, which is also parking in a dangerous position due to the junction would soon meet the cost of the officers. 

Reduce the cost of legal parking - Increase the penalties for illegal parking (and enforce the law)!

OK - so let's assume what'd happen under this model: the parking enforcement officers are dependant on issuing penalty tickets for their salaries.

-The officers go completely OTT and clamp down on every single possible infringement
-Drivers become so paranoid about being ticketed they park ultra-cautiously
-The officers cannot issue any more tickets, as no rules are being broken
-The officers lose their jobs, as they are funded by ne'er-do-well drivers.
-Drivers notice no more officers, and so do what the hell they like where they like
-Eventually more officers are recruited and employed...

And thus the cycle begins again.

It's not realistic.  You wouldn't say "Oh there's no burglaries this week, let's sack the police officers".


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